Antique Shamisen

First post here. I spent about 3 years in Japan back in the 60’s. I enjoy hearing
the shamisen being played at the Japanese festivals that I’ve been to. I saw
this shamisen on an auction and I was intrigued by it and did win it. It appears
it can be played and I am going to challenge my granddaughter to learn to
play. I am wondering what your thoughts on it as to age, wood, etc. The drum
face skin is smooth, the back drum skin is very rough. It measures 38" long.
I am not crazy about the decorative tape around both sides of the drum faces
and may remove it to see why it was taped.
Thanks,
Larry










Shamisen 10

Hello Larry.

Welcome to Bachido.

Before analysing it, please know that I love Shamisen, and all criticism here is about the “unfair” treatment this shamisen got before reaching your hands.

Well… What you have there is a Shamisen indeed, but sort of a hybrid one.
The dou and sao are definitely great Karin wood, and the Zagane are a gorgeous representation of the high quality craftsmanship of the time.

But from there, it seems that this Shamisen was in the hands of someone who really don’t know much about Shamisen.
The Itomaki are way off standards, although I can’t deny it works, sort of. I question the ergonomics of twisting the Ichi or the San, as, due to it’s huge size, there’s not enough room for a hand in between.
The Neo is not a Neo, really. It seems unusable, as it goes way too much over the skin.
There’s no Koma. I hope it wasn’t played like that.
The skin is clearly goat, and was stretched using techniques unrelated to Shamisen skinning. The tape is there to offer extra hold to the skin applied in unorthodox ways. I will risk saying it’s not even close to the tension required for a good Shamisen sound.
The strings are definitely not Shamisen strings, but I can’t see what’s that from the photos.
And finally, maybe the worst offender of all, the nut in place of a Kamigoma, which is raising the strings waaaay too much above the Sao (maybe to compensate for lack of a koma?).

Anyway, you have a real shamisen underneath all the modifications, and it can be saved from it all if you want. You just need proper strings, a Kamigoma, a Koma, proper itomaki (though, as I mentioned, yours are sort of usable), and a Neo. And a Bachi, assuming none came with it.

If you want to do a partial or full workup on that Shamisen, please reach out to Kyle on the Bachido contact form.

And please feel free to ask anything else you need to know.

Cheers.
Jonny

Thanks for this valuable information. It appears I have a project on my hands which
is not a terrible thing. After looking closely at the stings I find that 2 of them are
what appears to be steel guitar stings and 1 is a nylon string. I am not sure what
you mean by “the nut in place of a Kamigoma” as it looks to me as a plastic piece
with the 3 strings wearing through it almost down to the level of the wood of the
neck. The goat skin is tight on the drum faces so I will see how it sounds when I
have most everything corrected. Another questions are - is this a Naugata shamisen?
And what would a proper Kamigoma look like for this shamisen?
Thanks again,
Larry

Yes, yours looks a lot like a Nagauta.
But to be precise, I would need measurements.
The first thing is to measure the Sao width at the fingerboard level (not at the middle of the shaft where it’s wider), right below the chibukuro (the cheeks of the tenjin, the rounded parts before the Sao starts to be straight). The second thing is the size of the Dou. For that, I need you to measure width and height of the Dou at the skin level. So right at the edge, where top skin becomes side skin, that’s the measuring point, not at the middle of the rounded dou.

Regarding the strings, please remove them as soon as possible. Steel strings cause undue tension to the Sao, and can end up warping it, especially strings as thick as these.

This is a Kamigoma of a Nagauta:

And this is a guitar nut:

image

This is the part you would buy:

The strings have no tension on them. The Sao measures 24mm and the duo measures 9cm. I peeked under the black tape and it’s ugly so I will leave the tape alone. Again I do
appreciate the information and am going to try to bring this shamisen as alive as I can
practically do.
Larry

Nagauta? Kinda need to know so I can get the correct parts to bring this shamisen
back to life.