Goze

Thanks for the extra information, Kyoko. It all happened so long ago, so I can see why your mother’s memories must be vague, but it’s interesting to hear about the goze from the point of view of a child in a village they visited. From what I’ve read, they were Buddhist, but also saw Benten, the goddess of arts, as a kind of patron saint. There are also a lot of folk beliefs about the goze. For example, in silk producing areas they sang to the silkworms for good luck, and left their broken strings to be put in the rafters with the worms to magically help them produce more silk. Also, like nuns, they had to remain virgins (or were expelled, like the title character in the movie Hanare Goze Orin). I wasn’t sure how much all of this was a part of their public identity, but if your mother specifically remembers these religious associations, it must have been important.

Lorraine, to get back to your question about recordings, there are still some available for sale, but only through Amazon Japan, as far as I can tell. Send me a message, and we can see about how to get some songs to you.

Sayuri: Yes, her life was really hard, in ways that it’s hard to even think about, which makes the respect she finally got in her old age so much sweeter.

It has been so kind of you, Gerry. For sharing important and precious knowledge with us all!!!
Goze had been nothing important but just mom’s small talk until I came to play shamisen recently. I think I will be more involved in looking for the real history on Japanese sub culture which is based on our ancestor’s real life.

I have literally just finished watching the Goze film. I’m going to have to take a while just to let it all sink in…

Amanda! You can ask me through PM on Bachido if you have any questions on the Goze movie “Hanare Goze Orin”
I guess there must be many parts you do not understand because of cultural difference or being young.

Resurrecting this old thread because we started a Goze discussion on Facebook - but I wanted to ask Amanda - where did you get the film? I know this is three years later, but do you still have it? I’d like to watch it, but can’t get hold of it.

If it’s not possible, it’s okay.

Thanks!

I kept ‘ballad of Orin’ and I’m sure it is on my external HDD, however my laptop is being repaired so I have no access to it! Keep reminding me and I will get back to you properly

OhMiGosh, that would be AHmazing! No hurry whatsoever. I will nag you about it in a month or so, lol. XOXO

hi there
laptop back, i have 2 versions (different formats and subs) just figuring out a way to get it to you Lorraine

Sorry, it took me a couple of days to catch this! OMG, you are a PRINCESS!! Do you have DropBox? You can put it in a folder and PM me the link.

Hi all, in case it wasn’t posted before, this goze presentation shows actual video clips of goze performances, along with pictures, discussion, etc. My favorite is at 28:24, but there are clips at 10:16, 27:10, 28:05, 28:24, 29:58. Presentation is 56min long.

Also, here are old NHK recordings with more sound samples.





(this one has 5 clips)

I recently purchased the CD (mastered on Oct-1999) “Goze Uta”. Here is more album info: http://www.offnote.org/SHOP/on-38.html . And another song to listen to: https://youtu.be/6gKs-Iq-yFw . According to Discogs, some tracks were recorded btw 1958-1976; and others were recorded by the Goson Bunko Collection, Nagaoka.

Check out this link, Virginia.

It’s got some other Goze music files.

Hey, you changed your profile picture Chris =). I saw that link when reading through this old thread. Great stuff. I am just adding more stuff as I find it, in case others haven’t seen it and would be interested.

Oh heck, was it already posted?

Beg pardon. I stumbled on it on my own sometime ago.

And yes, I was slightly overdue for an update. Thanks for noticing.

Chris, no need to apologize. Not sure who posted. But definitely worth re-posting that link anyways. =)

You might want to check out Shinoda Masahiro’s 1977 movie Ballad of Orin.

Oh and for the Chikuzan Takahashi admirers (like me) you may want to watch Shindo Kaneto’s 1977 “The life of Chikuzan”. Nice little dramatic insight into his early life. Also a nice introduction piece where he talks and plays.

I’m blind, and I have no experience playing traditional Japanese instruments. The reason why I love traditional Japanese instruments was because I discovered biwa hoshi. When I discovered they were blind I thought “such a very fantastic thing!”. Then, I was introduced to koto music because of a friend of mine, who is blind, and plays koto. It was a very strange situation, because I felt like “resurrrection! :)”, when knowing there’s like a world of blindness in traditional Japanese music! For example, the inventor of juushichigen (Miyagi Michio) is blind! Virginia Chong made me watch a lecture by dr. Hirose Kojiro, who is blind, and he’s a researcher about goze. I suggest you to watch this, because I found it very very interesting. I think today’s blind traditional Japanese students/Teachers/players are very lucky!

I must thank all blind people who play traditional Japanese stuff!

Thanks for the movie suggestions, Neil! I will look for them, along with many hard to find movies. There is also a DVD documentary of goze, 1971 I think, but has to be purchased from Japan.

I have started reading Gerald Groemer’s Goze book and other articles he has published. They are dense and I’m slow reading through, but a lot of Japanese feudal history and many other topics are new to me so a reading curve. After, I will look for his book on The Spirit of Tsugaru and Chikuzan Takahashi’s autobiography.